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Director Kevin Smith Challenges Southwest Over “Customer of Size” Policy

Airlines & Airports on February 15, 2010 3:07 pm

Director Kevin Smith Battles Southwest Airlines Over Seating PolicySouthwest Airlines may have opened Pandora’s box by booting writer/director Kevin Smith from a flight for being “too fat.”

Smith is now making his voice heard challenging the carrier’s actions.

Smith has no problem admitting that he’s “way fat,” but he maintains that Southwest had no grounds to evict him because he was within their guidelines for oversized passengers.

If Smith met the requirements, why was he forced to leave?

In their apology to Smith (director of Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy & Dogma among others), Southwest claims that they asked him to leave for the safety of the other passengers on the flight.

They specifically noted that a passenger has to be able to comfortably lower the armrest without infringing on a portion of another customer’s seat.

Fat man’s shadowBut Smith insists that he was seated comfortably in the middle seat when a flight attendant approached him to leave. He showed her that he could put down the armrests and while he hadn’t yet fastened his seatbelt, he maintains that he’s able to wear a seatbelt without the help of an extender.

Smith is so confident in this that he challenged the airline to bring in a row of seats and test it out on national television. If he doesn’t pass the armrest test, he’ll donate $10,000 to a charity of their choice. But if Smith fits, they must admit that they were in the wrong.

According to Southwest’s current “customer of size” policy, passengers who do not meet the armrest requirement must purchase an additional seat. If the flight is not full, the second seat will be refunded to the passenger.

In Smith’s case, he had originally bought two seats for a flight from Oakland to Burbank. He has said he occasionally purchases two seats on short, inexpensive flights for privacy, not because of his size.

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He arrived at the airport early and wanted to see if he could get on an earlier flight. There was a single seat available for him, but according to Southwest, after Smith boarded, the pilot decided that he couldn’t safely fit in one seat.

Smith was then forced to leave, an experience he described as humiliating. He contends that the pilot never saw him board the plane, but isn’t sure who made the decision to remove him.

Two overweight menAs he was leaving the plane, Smith claims he exchanged a glance with another overweight passenger who was even bigger. Southwest flew the director on a later flight and offered him a $100 travel voucher for the inconvenience. While waiting for his next flight, he began voicing his outrage at the airline via Twitter.

Smith purchased two seats on his next flight to Burbank. Ironically, a woman who was seated in the aisle seat of his row was pulled aside by a flight attendant, suggesting that she consider buying two seats in the future. Further enraged, Smith continued covering the topic on Twitter and on his podcast entitled, “Go F#*& Yourself, Southwest.”

Other “customer of size” policies: Obese and Disabled Passengers on Canadian Airlines to be Tested to Qualify for Free Seat.

Although some have chalked this up to nothing more than a celebrity diva temper tantrum, especially considering that Smith’s latest movie, Cop Out, will be in theaters on February 26, Smith says that he’s making a stand against an unfair policy.

Southwest Airlines logoAccording to Smith, no paying customer, celebrity or otherwise, should have to go through the humiliation of being evicted from a plane—especially when they meet the guidelines for “passengers of size.”

The issue of whether or not to charge overweight passengers for two seats has been hotly debated in recent years.

But of equal concern in this story—if Smith’s claims are true—is Southwest’s seemingly arbitrary enforcement of its policy.

What do you think? Is Southwest’s “customers of size” policy fair? Should Southwest accept Smith’s challenge and test the seats on national television?

By Dan Bence for PeterGreenberg.com.

Related Links: Southwest’s Official PolicySouthwest’s Official Apology, Kevin Smith’s Twitter Page, Kevin Smith’s Podcast #106

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  • Janet Smith

    Kudos to Southwest. Nothing worse than buying a seat and having your neighbor in the next seat spilling out over on you the whole flight.

  • Fred

    Do like Disneyland but instead of a height bar to get on a ride have two metal poles. If you can’t go between them then you have to buy two seats.

    Go going SWA. I’ve been stuck next to a fat person too many times.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1436370143 Peggy Keller

    The problem is with the randomness sw uses on this policy. Listen to the people complaining about the obese passengers sitting next to them that did not get kicked off the flights- why not? If this is policy why not use it every time. Before I lost weight I flew sw and was asked twice to buy an extra seat, ( I had flown at least 5 times that year without being asked) which I did – even though I was sitting with my mother. One time they then promptly sold my extra seat to a standby and sat him in the open seat. I did not get a refund because according to SW it was my responsibility (even though he was seated by the attendant) to kick the guy off the plane (seriously- read their policy on this).

  • roni

    Have you as a traveler ever sat by someone so large. You start to huddle in your seat all scrunched up…is that fair?
    Does this man not have any other important things in his life to worry about? If he is so obsessed with this then perhaps he should spend the time going on a diet!!!

  • Michael

    How about we install height/weight meters in the line (just to make the travel lines longer in wait). If you exceed the “normal” range, you will get automatically billed extra. Then we can treat everyone fair.

    At least southwest doesn’t charge for extra bags such as US Airways. So take some of that savings and apply it to your “comfy” room.

  • Ed Sun

    U. S. travelers continue to buy tickets on Southwest Airlines because they usually offer the lowest fares……….. then they complain bitterly about the seat size. HOW DO YOU THINK Southwest can afford to offer low fares? They do it by cramming as many people as possible on their aircraft………… in order to offer us REGULAR folks a fare that allows us to travel around this country. If you don’t like their seat size…….. fly another airline!!! If your company pays for your flights…… complain to your boss!!! If you are TOO large for a S/W seat… buy two tickets! I don’t want you sitting in part of MY seat… I paid for it!!!

  • BB

    Actually, Ed, Southwest has pretty much the same seat pitch as everyone else.

  • William Kickham

    Southwest’s policy is ENTIRELY fair — and LONG overdue. The cost and amount of fuel needed to lift and keep aloft a plan has become the “center of the bullsye” when it comes airlines to setting fares. Grossly obese slobs on a plane SHOULD pay more in fare — a LOT more. Totally aside from safety consderations of fellow passengers, it is ENTIRELY INEQUITABLE that a grossly overweight person is charged NO MORE in fare than a normal-weighing (or non-obese) person.

    Watch all the fat shzlubs across the country go crazy over this — after all, they make up 65% of the population (and they know it.) Take that, “fat acceptance” people.

  • Pete Smith

    I agree. As someone who has flown next to overweight people in the past it can be very uncomfortable, especially on longer flights. I exercise and eat right to keep myself in shape and I don’t know why I should be punished for someone infringing on my space as limited as it is on the aircraft.

  • Tim

    I don’t know this man but I have been squashed by BIG people of both sexes and it is not fun. I have had bulging thighs flow under the arm rests and bulging guts flow over them. I have had a gargantuan lady in front of me recline her seat to the extend that I could not move my legs. When I buy a seat I should not be expected to share it with my neighbor.