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Travel Detective Investigates Air France Flight 447 and Commuter Jet Safety

Plane Crashes on June 24, 2009 12:14 pm

Airbus A320 Air FranceLet’s start this week with the continuing investigation into the crash of Air France Flight 447.

More than 50 bodies and more than 400 pieces of wreckage have been recovered, but don’t get too confident about that—some of those pieces are smaller than a paper clip with the exception of the tail section.

But the investigators are saying they are getting closer to figuring out what was it that caused the crash.

No plane ever crashes for any one reason. It’s always a combination of reasons create a scenario from which the plane cannot recover. That, of course, seems to be the case here.

My preliminary indication is that this plane did break up in flight. The tail section—which is made of composite materials—was recovered essentially intact. Had it hit the water in a crash situation, it likely would have shattered into a thousand pieces.

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The autopsies of the bodies they’ve recovered also seem to indicate one consistent finding: every single body recovered had multiple fractures in almost every part of the body, which indicates a break up in flight.

Aviation instrumentsSo what do they think happened? Well, faulty speed readings and electronic failures are certainly being looked at carefully and, as a result, all U.S. airlines are replacing the speed sensors in the Airbus planes that they fly. But those sensors had not been replaced in the airplane that was in question, going between Rio and Paris.

The other interesting indication is that this may have happened before, on a Qantas Airbus A330 jet that was flying over western Australia last October. Let me just set the scene for you: The equipment that we’re talking about in these planes is susceptible to phony or faulty readings of air speed. So combine that with severe turbulence, the pilot thought he was actually flying faster than he was. He could have easily slowed the plane to ease the ride and in doing so, put it into a stall.

And, remember that most planes in those flight patterns are on autopilot. That is what happened on the Qantas flight over western Australia. Confused data caused by the flight-controlled computers mistakenly registered an imminent stall, disconnected the automatic pilot and commanded a strong downward pitch, from which the crew fortunately was able to recover, although 14 people were injured.

NTSB logoCombine that with severe air turbulence in the region and you can see we have a recipe for disaster. Again, we don’t have a probable cause yet, but we are looking at those two areas.

Continuing air safety, of course, we’ve got to go back to that Continental crash in Buffalo early this year. The hearings on the Hill were held last week, and it’s just getting worse and worse for regional airlines and their pilot training practices.

Isn’t it wild that the pilot—who had failed multiple tests and didn’t even understand how to operate the plane in a stall situation—when he was hired by the airline, wasn’t asked for his previous history or his test results? It’s amazing.

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The other problem is the FAA is saying they are going to start requiring tougher rules on commuter air pilots and commuter airlines themselves. The co-pilot of this plane, who could not even afford to live in the base where she was flying, had taken two red-eye flights the night before, and jump suited into a FedEx plane just to get to her location in order to fly the plane.

Caribbean flightAnd you know what her annual salary was? $16,200. That is roughly the equivalent of a Wal-Mart cashier. You know what? I don’t want a Wal-Mart cashier flying my plane. I want somebody who is completely trained.

In the cockpit voice recordings of the transcripts that have been subsequently released, even she, during the descent, admitted she had no idea what she was doing up there. How about that? She had never been in an icing situation. You don’t put someone in the right seat, let alone the left seat, who hasn’t had that experience. It is just absolutely unforgivable.

And finally, Continental Airlines actually put two unaccompanied girls on the wrong planes last week. You know, the airlines have just upped the unaccompanied minor fee, in some cases to $100 per segment. That’s officially a $200 airfare increase for anybody connecting on a flight one way!

Continental logoNow for that, what are you paying for? You’re not paying for the in-flight food or the onboard entertainment. You’re paying for the safety and security of knowing that your child will at least be taken on the right plane to begin with, and will be escorted to the next connecting flight so the kid actually comes off the plane. So obviously, they’ll be reviewing some procedures there.

Now, some good news for those people who believe that we have a buyer’s market of unprecedented proportion. The airfares are dropping so rapidly on some international routes that even with a $200 change fee, the lower airfares are going to save you about $600. This is on South American flights, on European flights, etc.

So what that means is if you find a flight that you’ve wanted to take has dropped significantly—i.e. more than the $150 or $200 it costs to change the ticket—jump on it and then make the change. Bottom line, the good news is it remains a buyer’s market and we are in the middle of the high travel season of June.

By Peter Greenberg for Peter Greenberg Worldwide Radio.

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  • MarkH

    Peter wrote (of a Colgan Air pilot in the Buffalo crash), that he “didn’t even understand how to operate the plane in a stall situation”.

    Peter, how do you know that? I’m not disputing the correctness of this statement, only wondering about the source (I have not read deeply into the Buffalo crash record).

    It is clear that the flight crew made a grossly incorrect response to the stall situation. Was this due to not understanding how to operate the plane in a stall, or is it possible that the pilot flying DID understand, but under conditions of stress and fatigue made a wrong panic reaction?

    My intention here is not to quibble over an academic detail. The answer to this question would help to guide what would be appropriate remedies for the processes of training, certifying, and hiring air transport pilots.

  • Asesh Bhaumick

    Thank you so much for the wonderful post logically structuring the available information with your expert opinion and analogy. I am not any aviation expert but would be eager to know the following outcome of the test as described below.
    The core of auto-pilot systems at the end of the day is a piece of software with in built logic under different scenarios that pilots the aircraft through the maneuvering of control surfaces. Of course there are fallbacks and safeguards, which are also another logic built in the code. Now my question is has the AutoPilot system that was installed on the ill fated AF447 undergone any simulation test as a part of the investigation where intentionally 3 different airspeed data has been fed in to see the reaction?

  • http://nearmiltonyahoo.com nearmilton@yahoo.com

    I bet you they calculated that for 3 pitot tubes to fail simulateneously, the odds were like 1 in 1 billion etc.

    So no simulation test necessary for this scenario, otherwise, if the all the pitot sensors fail, and if the autopilot gives up flying and hands over control to the pilot, good luck to the pilot and hes SOL. This is a fatal design flaw of the autopilot system in airbus that if things go wrong it hands over control to the pilot, like the pilot will do better?

  • D. Philip

    This article has a number of number of inaccurate statements.
    The AFaccident has no clean indications except the tail failure.
    The Colgan FO made 24.5k per year and would rise to over 30 at her next anniversary. In 3 more, she would make 65k.
    Airlines are unable to seek information on records older than 5 years. You state this as a failure and it is not.
    Facts lead to credibility.

  • chuck

    Ok…to add some professional opinion. I am a aircraft mechanic for a large US carrier. The Airbus is designed to take over flying the plane by computer when certain parameters are exceded…the pilot has no command then and also cannot override the computer…they are just along for the ride. Where as Boeing planes are designed to do the opposite…the pilot takes over flying. Boeings thinking is it is better to let the pilot fly it by hand.
    Airbus has had a problem with the tail structure not being able to sustain heavy loads and stresses.

  • Asesh Bhaumick

    One more clarification please ..(reminder i am just a layman)…if the air speed sensors give incoherent readings (most liklye lower than actual due to congestion and icing on the tubes) , how does the automated warning system detect stall/over thrust situation under such circumstances?

  • desktraveler

    Can you please explain how the fact of broken bones leads to the conclusion of a break up in flight? I have heard many sources site this relationship but no one has explained why. Thanks.

  • Tony Swales

    How can you complain that pilots don’t get paid enough and then encourage people to find cheaper fairs. No wonder airlines have to pay their pilots so little. You are part of the cause here!

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